Actually of course it is the parents fault if their kids get DFed because they were the ones who pressured their kids to get baptized in the first place. If they never got baptized they couldn't be DFed......right?
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Another flip flop
by blownaway inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8hzakyfazc this is a talk this year about how to stay loyal to the cult.
it talks about not blaming yourself when your child is dfed.
but wait, when i was in the cult the elders told the parents of dfed children that it was their fault.
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Tattoos
by new boy ini don't really have an opinion on the them one way or another.. when i was growing up the only place you saw them were on old ex military guys.
they had eagles with american flags or a heart with a knife through it.
some were so old and faded out you didn't know what they were supposed represent anymore.
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new boy
I don't really have an opinion on the them one way or another.
When I was growing up the only place you saw them were on old ex military guys. They had eagles with American flags or a heart with a knife through it. Some were so old and faded out you didn't know what they were supposed represent anymore.
Instead of the twenty dollar tattoo spent on shore leave, now people are spending hundreds and even thousands of dollars on them.
I do fine this rather new fad quite fascinating. I say fad because as beautiful as these works of art if we fast forward forty years I think it's going to be a different story. Grandma in her seventies with her two full sleeves of sagging flesh and the giant Koi fish swimming down her back towards her tramp stamp will look quite different in a few years.
Just like the old sailors that are long gone most people will wonder if grandma was totally toasted the night she decided to turn her body in a canvas so she could stand out or look more different than everyone else. She certainly stands out now with sagging flesh and distorted tattoos. Has much as a fad as it was by the time grandma's grand children are around my guess they will say no way to this strange primitive activity of permanent skin discoloration.
The pendulum will then swing hard in the opposite direction.
My daughter got some tattoos. Her second ex husband who was not a JW had some tattoos too. In fact he had 80% of his body tattooed. He had FULL facial tattoos. nose, neck, cheeks, ears. He was a sight to see. In fact I'll never forget the time we all went to Hawaii. He and I were walking through the airport and all eyes were on him for sure. I had never experienced anything like it before in my life. If he was wanting to make a statement, he certainly did. Of course it was really hard for him to get a job looking like that. That was fine with him anyway he preferred to stay at home and play video games, while my daughter worked two jobs. I have no judgement about his tattoos. His many excuses to sit at home and not look for employment is a different matter.
I saw my favorite tattoo of all time in Portland Oregon in 2006. It was brilliant! This girl was sitting on the curb in front of Whole foods. She was wearing a sleeveless blouse and was talking on her cell phone. I couldn't help but laugh my ass off when I noticed her arm. On the very top of her arm was the name "Steve" that was crossed out. Below Steve was "Mike" that was crossed out too. Under Mike was "Tom" which was crossed out also. Under Tom was "Jason" Jason had not been crossed out yet. She had loved these men so much she was willing to put their names on her arm in permanent ink. On the other hand she was in complete disclosure. She was telling the world "Yes I love you. However I have loved others also, you are not the first and you my not be the last." Bravo!
Anyway I do enjoy seeing them on other people. They're just not for me. There is no picture or statement I want on my body for the rest of my life. Nothing I want to share with the rest of the world.
In fact the Buddhist believe nothing is permanent. Does this mean tattoos too?
Have some tattoos send us a picture!
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Do Witnesses Experience Racial Discrimination To Your Knowledge?
by minimus inmy experience in the kingdom hall was that racial discrimination and profiling was not typically practiced....that i know of.
i was in a diverse city with every type of skin color and nationality imaginable.. i’m wondering if the witnesses have changed due to the current affairs exposed by the media everyday.
are there discrimination issues in jw land??
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new boy
An excerpt from my novel that will soon will be coming out.
About only 15% of all Bethelites were black. However about 60% of the guys working in the bindery are black. This seemed odd to me how misappropriate the numbers were. I couldn’t help to ask Calvin Chyke one day as we were walking to the factory together why this was the case? He was in charge of factory personal at the time.
He told me. “The black brothers had a natural rhythm that fits in well with the machines.”
I guess this is one time when natural rhythm wasn’t an advantage.
Ronnie Klineman from Ruston Louisiana. Told me my favorite story about Brother Swingle who was on the governing body. Ronnie sat on Lyman’s table. There happened to be a new black kid from Detroit assigned to Brother Swingle’s table. Of course as a new boy he was feeling pretty good about himself as most new boys do when they first get there.
Lyman glanced over to him and said to him at lunch one day. "Boy would you please pass me the potatoes?"
The black brother looked at Lyman with distain and fired back. "I'm not your boy!”
To which Lyman said, not even batting an eye. "Nigger pass the potatoes."
Hard to believe isn’t? Yes, Bethel was not the place to try and be uppity. Black or white we were all just boys in their eyes and of course they could say and do anything they wanted to us. Was this kid going to go and complain about something a member of the governing body said? I think not.
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May 1 2018 my Ayahuasca Experience
by new boy init has been over a year and a half since my last ceremony.
which was way to long.
my son came up from scottsdale for the ceremony.
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All drugs are bad!All religions are bad!What other things can we lump together.Are we talking about legal drugs like versus illegal drugs? What about the two biggest killers like alcohol and tobacco totally legal and can of course be an addiction.So are we talking about drugs that are addictive?Of the hundreds of people I have met not one person I have met was addicted to Ayahauasca.A year and a half ago was he last time I enjoyed it.So really what are we talking about here?What we are talking about is people who choose to condemn something they have have NO personal knowledge.That doesn't sound healthy.A substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medicationA substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease- prescription drugs
- drugs for treating high blood pressure
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May 1 2018 my Ayahuasca Experience
by new boy init has been over a year and a half since my last ceremony.
which was way to long.
my son came up from scottsdale for the ceremony.
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new boy
OK
A couple of things here.
1. I will never bring up this subject again. Forgive me for mentioning something that might expands one's conscience.
2. I find it fascinating that people who have in the pass condemned things they know nothing about are still enjoying condemning things they no nothing about.
I thought this was a place that people were looking for real answers. Maybe I was wrong maybe it's a place that people can just complain about the nature of things and condemn things they nothing about.
If you have tried to open your mind up to something new or different and it didn't work out that is one thing. On the other hand if you condemn something you really know nothing about you really just show how narrow minded you are and you are back into into the JW world once again.
Wasanelder your avatar is perfect for you because you look very confused.
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May 1 2018 my Ayahuasca Experience
by new boy init has been over a year and a half since my last ceremony.
which was way to long.
my son came up from scottsdale for the ceremony.
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new boy
Thank you
It has been called medicine in all the practices I been involved with. Believe me when I say there is nothing fun or recreational about it use in anyway.
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Reaction to baptism figures
by neat blue dog intalking about tomorrow's wt study, that mentions over a quarter of a million baptized every year, a jw asked how many that is a day.
i got out my calculator and answered over 778 a day.
of course they were amazed at the growth, but immediatly i googled another statistic and read it aloud:.
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new boy
It sounds like a lot of sex to me.
This is how the vast majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses are now created. It wasn’t always this way. From the early years of the church through the nineteen eighties people joined the religion by way of the “door to door” activity mostly. What has changed? Two things. 1. Millions of Jehovah’s Witnesses are having sex with millions of other Jehovah’s Witnesses 2. People are now more educated. Now with the internet people can really research religions before they join them. Not too many people now a days are looking for a religion that got started in the 1870's by a bunch of Germans from Pennsylvania. A religion that doesn’t believe in any holidays or blood transfusions, is very restrictive sexually and has been preaching the end of the world is coming for over a hundred years.
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May 1 2018 my Ayahuasca Experience
by new boy init has been over a year and a half since my last ceremony.
which was way to long.
my son came up from scottsdale for the ceremony.
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new boy
It has been over a year and a half since my last ceremony. Which was way to long.
My son came up from Scottsdale for the ceremony. We have done Ayahuasca together about six times. However the last time he did it was March 17, 2011, over seven years ago.
As they say. "When the student is ready the teacher arrives."
Since the medicine will give you what you need and not what, there is always a bit of excitement but also a disquiet concern for what will be coming your way.
There were fifteen of us there from all over the United States, one lady came from Australia. Most the people there were in their thirties and forties. Their were people there who had made this journey dozens of times before and a half dozen of first timers.
We were at a beautiful secluded home nestled among the red rocks. Everything was perfect for sure.
I had no way of knowing that within 12 hours my world would be turned upside down once again.
The answers my unconscious mind was looking for would soon be here.
We all took the medicine about 9:00 pm. It was one of the the mildest experiences I ever had with no purging.
There were many interesting feelings and thoughts. Then there was sleep also. I did get up and went outside to sit by a lovely camp fire. I ended up having a good conversation with the Shaman's assistant.
We talked about relationships. How that all of them seem to have expiration dates attached to them. Yes though we all want permanence, this can only be an illusion, because everything and everyone are constantly changing.
It the early morning light we all said our goodbyes and went are separate ways.
Later that day our landlord gave us our thirty day notice to vacate our home, since the house we were living in got sold. It is time for to us to move.
Since we had to move, that night the lady I have been with for four years felt it was time for us to separate also. This was coming for awhile but neither of us wanted to look at it. We had been moving in two different directions and were making each other miserable. We both still love each other deeply we just haven't been enjoying the experience. If your not having fun why be together?
Since we own a business together that relationship too would change and would be different in the future.
So yes what an amazing day.
I have just one thing left to do and that is bless everything that comes my way with no judgement.
Believing on some level that no matter how things might look on the outside that I will be exactly where I need to be.
One of the biggest epiphanies I had on Ayahausca was that control was the biggest illusion of them all.
It's all perfect
Namaste
Keith Casarona
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Cleaning out my mom's house
by Lynnie inso i'm cleaning out my jw mom's house since she's gone to assisted living.
she had tons of bound volumes of the wt and awake from the 80's and 90's and the cousins decided to recycle all of them since "everything is online now.
they even recycled old nwt bibles!!
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new boy
You're partly right "most" everything is on line now. Remember the society has make in impossible to research anything before the year 1980.
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Closure and the death of JW family/friends
by dubstepped ina few threads recently made me think of how cruel jehovah's witnesses are in shunning around death.
i don't have much experience with death.
i lost my non-jw grandpa when i was 12 (?
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new boy
My JW sister never even called me to tell me our non JW father had died. I heard about it from a friend of my father's who was invited to the his service which of course wasn't even at a KM.
"By their love you will know them"